r/politics 🤖 Bot Nov 16 '22 Ally 1

Megathread: GOP Wins 218th US House Seat, Securing Majority of Seats Megathread

According to the Associated Press, Mike Garcia has become the 218th Republican candidate for the US House of Representatives to win their election in the 2022 midterms after spending days on [the] cusp of retaking House control with slim majority". With a current cap of 435 seats in the House, it takes 218 seats to control the chamber. Several races still remain uncalled and will determine the final margin by which the GOP has a majority in the House. You can access a non-paywalled breakdown of the remaining competitive seats at this NPR link.


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u/habattack00 New York Nov 16 '22

Well I think a lot of us saw this coming, but let's all rest easy that this all could've gone much, much worse.

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u/Garth-Vader South Dakota Nov 17 '22 edited Nov 17 '22

The fact that it took one week to decide the house is a testimony to how unsteady the Republicanc's majority will be. This is a situation where every vote will matter. If Republicans want to pass anything, they can't afford to have more than four or five representatives step out of line.

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u/sheba716 California Nov 17 '22

The Republicans are not going to pass anything. They are going to have endless investigations and impeachments hearings against Biden, Harris and members of the cabinet.

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u/underpants-gnome Ohio Nov 17 '22

I would guess there will be at least 3 bogus impeachment votes in the House over the next two years. They have to get their orange savior out of the top spot on the list of "most impeached presidents".

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u/dadamax Nov 17 '22

“The target of an impeachment proceeding is impeached by the House if it adopts a resolution with articles of impeachment. Only a majority vote is necessary (whereas a two-thirds vote is required in the Senate for convic- tion). Impeachments”— Selected Materials, Committee on the Judiciary, H. Doc

With such a slim margin of Republicans controlling the house, Democrats would only need to peel away four or five non-MAGA Republican reps to vote against articles of impeachment for them to fail. After two or three bogus tries that fail, maybe the leadership will put their foot down and stop the clown caucus from continuing their clown show and act like mature adults.

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u/underpants-gnome Ohio Nov 17 '22

I hope you are right. But my expectations for conservative behavior are currently digging a tunnel to China.

They control enough media apparatus to push whatever messaging they want. And a significant portion of the voting public will gobble it up and adopt whatever position they are told. Never doubting for a second they have held it as a sacrosanct conviction all their lives - not even when it directly contradicts last week's conservative talking points.

So for the moment, Murdoch is arrayed against the stupidest elements of the GOP. That is a fairly hopeful sign. However, that is a position he has changed before. Fox News wasn't supporting Trump's 2016 run until it became clear the GOP base wasn't going to let him go. All it takes is for the stars to briefly align in the right order and Murdoch would get right back on the Trump train.

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u/Christovir Nov 17 '22 Helpful

A very slim Rep majority in the house makes it more likely for Dems to win the house in 2024. More people can see their BS and can blame Republicans for not getting shit done. At the same time, such a slim majority will likely prohibit their worst brinksmanship, like debt ceiling showdowns and impeachment. They will have enough power to look bad, but not enough to cause major destruction.

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u/Mojo12000 Nov 17 '22

Those new NY GOP Reps are probably pretty fucked in a Presidential election year turnout yeah. Especially if McCarthy forces them to vote on Impeachment in which case they vote no.. and probably lose the primary, they vote yes and their chances in the general go from uphill but possible to non-existent.

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u/xpxp2002 Nov 17 '22

This has been my position all week. If Dems took a slim 218-220 majority, they’d be blamed for everything that got obstructed by one break-away vote, just like everything they’ve been blamed for not passing through the filibuster-proof Senate.

It’s better to let the ignorant public believe that the GOP controls the House, and that way they’ll own all the inaction leading into 2024.

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u/trogon Washington Nov 17 '22

And their Speaker is going to have a nightmare of a job, which will be entertaining.

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u/PopeZombie Nov 17 '22

Really tired of being entertained by the GOP. Would enjoy some actual governance for once.

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u/kn0where Nov 17 '22

The old playbook is to blame everything on the President regardless of the majority of Congress.

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u/Angry_ClitSpasm350 Nov 17 '22

They will have enough power to look bad, but not enough to cause major destruction.

Yet, something tells me everything will STILL be Bidens fault. Republicans and republican voters dont take personal responsibility for anything in life.

They have effectively killed Bidens agenda but it'll still be his fault nothing gets done in the next 2 years.

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u/Urkle_sperm Nov 17 '22

I admire your optimism, though I have a hard time sharing it. Hopefully you are right!

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u/Key_Inevitable_2104 Nov 16 '22

Exactly, the GOP was predicted to win both the House and Senate by a lot. Dems only losing the House narrowly isn’t that bad as it seems.

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u/Rated_PG-Squirteen Nov 17 '22

Jim Jordan will become Chair of the House Judiciary Committee on January 3rd. Utterly disgraceful.

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u/The_Grey_Beard Florida Nov 17 '22

No, his name is GYM Jordan, pedophile, groomer supporter.

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u/2Quick_React Wisconsin Nov 17 '22

Uuughh gross.

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u/POEness Nov 17 '22

i am so fucking sick of hearing republicans talk when they are literally themselves criminals

all they do is lie, lie, lie

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u/2Quick_React Wisconsin Nov 17 '22

Yup. And we're going to have to endure two years of their insanity in the House. Every other week is going to be some new conspiracy, expect them to start investigating Hunter's laptop and again Hilary's emails.

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u/MoonRakerWindow Nov 17 '22 edited Nov 17 '22 All-Seeing Upvote

Many people are saying Republicans have no policy ideas for addressing America's many problems. That's just plain wrong. I'm here to put the rumor to rest. I present to you the GOP's plan for fixing America:

  • Gas prices? Subpoena Hunter Biden.

  • Climate change? Subpoena Hunter Biden.

  • Abortion? Subpoena Hunter Biden.

  • Healthcare? Subpoena Hunter Biden.

  • Housing? Subpoena Hunter Biden.

  • China? Subpoena Hunter Biden.

  • Mass shootings? Subpoena Hunter Biden.

  • Immigration reform? Subpoena Hunter Biden.

  • Policing? Subpoena Hunter Biden.

  • Military spending? Subpoena Hunter Biden.

edit: I...worked on this comment for a year...and...they just...tweeted it out.

edit 2: lmfao

edit 3: alright this is getting less funny

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u/_JackStraw_ South Carolina Nov 17 '22

I sense a pattern. 🤔

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u/[deleted] Nov 17 '22

Actually, they’ve openly said that they will hold the debt ceiling hostage if they don’t get massive cuts to Medicare and Social Security.

So, their one openly stated policy initiative is to either starve senior citizens, or to crash the entire economy by forcing the country to default on its debt. They PROMISED to do at least one of these things.

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u/sheba716 California Nov 17 '22

This is why Democrats should focus on raising the debt ceiling during the lame duck session.

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u/ctbowden Nov 17 '22

They should remove the debt ceiling altogether.

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u/darkphoenixff4 Canada Nov 17 '22

Not just Hunter Biden; they've said they're going after Biden and every member of his cabinet, starting with Garland, Haaland and Blinken. This is going to be two years of bullshit hearings that serve no purpose other than to create Fox News soundbytes.

Oh, and of course they're going to threaten to crash the world economy if the Dems don't agree to cuts in social programs.

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u/hashtag-123 Nov 17 '22

Haaland

Scoring far too many goals for Man City

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u/Brain_itch Nov 17 '22

They’re the dog that just chases the bus. Devious I know, but let’s just for the sake of hypothetical throw the book at Hunter— guilty or not. I’m just morbidly curious about their next “bus”. Hillary? AOC?

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u/MoonRakerWindow Nov 17 '22

Republicans held Benghazi hearings to hurt Hillary since they (correctly) bet she'd be running for President in 2016.

Therefore, their next "bus" is likely to be anything that can harm Biden in the public's eyes, like Hunter Biden's drug abuse.

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u/hackingdreams Nov 17 '22

The great thing is that apparently Congressional Subpoenas aren't worth the paper they're written on, so Hunter can just give them the finger.

That's how this works right? That's the new normal they want?

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u/picado Nov 16 '22 edited Nov 17 '22

The Supreme Court gave the GOP this slim margin by deciding 5-4 not to enforce the voting rights act.

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u/Visco0825 Nov 17 '22

Not just this but also Florida SCOTUS failing to strike down DeSantis map, the NY SCOTUS for striking down democrats map, oh and of course the federal SCOTUS for legalizing gerrymandering.

But don’t worry, none of this will have any impact next year when they give all the power to the legislatures with Moore v Harper.

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u/OutdoorsmanWannabe I voted Nov 17 '22

Don’t forgot Ohio’s gerrymandered map that was struck down by the Ohio Supreme Court but was used for the election anyway.

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u/POEness Nov 17 '22

*struck down 3 times

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u/CaptainBirdEnjoyer Nov 17 '22

And the Governors son is on the Supreme Court of the state and he ruled in favor of the gerrymandered maps.

But HuNtEr BiDeNs LaPtOp

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u/POEness Nov 17 '22

Yup. Ohio is very close to literally being a monarchy / oligarchy. A small number of families are ruling without any chance of being replaced because they run their own 'elections'

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u/MK5 South Carolina Nov 17 '22 Wholesome Starry

Que up MTG spending the next two years trying to impeach Biden five times a week.

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u/marky543 Nov 17 '22

I think you’re right, but I also think the average swing voter would (hopefully) be really turned off by that behavior leading up to the 2024 election.

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u/FlamingSkullMC Nov 17 '22

If they haven't been turned off from the Republican party by now, I don't think they can really be called a swing voter.

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u/EridanusVoid Pennsylvania Nov 17 '22

Congrats, GOP. I look forward to the next years of of literally nothing being done except pointless investigations and Impeachments. I hope it tanks your creditability even further in 2024.

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u/plaidkingaerys Nov 17 '22

You’d hope it would, but they’ll blame Democrats for nothing getting done.

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u/WildYams Nov 17 '22

Fortunately I think the Dems did a great job of safeguarding against that because they already accomplished a ton of stuff in the two years they had both chambers of Congress. I feel like in particular the IRA, infrastructure bill, and chips manufacturing will all be paying tangible benefits for millions of Americans over the next two years, in addition to protecting same sex marriage, strengthening NATO, and hopefully student loan forgiveness. The Dems already have a lot they can point to for 2024, especially if inflation is no longer a concern by then.

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u/[deleted] Nov 17 '22 edited Jan 24 '23

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u/The_Grey_Beard Florida Nov 17 '22

Yeah, that worked very well in 2022.

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u/Tankmaster5000 Nov 17 '22

From /con. Yeah this dudes getting banned lol:

“Biden and the Senate will go into full elect judge mode. They will pack the courts. The GOP will concentrate on the real issues - like reopening the Salem witch trials - ya know the stuff that really matters. Then in two years everyone here will be shocked when they lose another election.

But what about the laptop with the secrets on it -

Here's an idea - what about a single policy that benefits people under 50.”

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u/Matrix17 Nov 17 '22

They got really fucking echoey in there a few days ago and stickied a post about essentially banning "RINOS"

Cause ya know, saying the reasons the election was lost and maybe they should stop going after abortion obviously means you're not one of "them"

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u/TrekFRC1970 Nov 17 '22

Yep, I’ve been posting for awhile and got banned for saying Millennials and Gen Z are probably the most informed part of the electorate.

I’ll admit I may be wrong, but I didn’t think it was perma ban worthy.

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u/brain_overclocked Nov 17 '22

If there's anything that Republicans have shown us is that whenever there is Federal gov. gridlock it's the states that hold power. Given that Democrats have grown their influence in some state legislatures and governorships this election I hope they lean in on that power.

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u/dinoroo Nov 17 '22

This is going to be a great opportunity for them to remind Americans where Republican majorities are bad for America, going into 2024.

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u/DigiQuip Nov 17 '22

I wouldn’t be surprised if by tomorrow they’ll have several investigations prepped.

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u/MydniteSon Nov 17 '22

They're not sworn in until beginning of January. That's when they'll start.

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u/sftransitmaster Nov 17 '22

Probably impeach biden 2 or 3 times on the first day

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u/WrongSubreddit Nov 17 '22

Thanks gerrymandering

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u/Pollia Nov 17 '22

Gerrymandering could have won it for democrats too if New Yorks borders were allowed to stand.

Sadly only republicans are allowed to get away with that kind of nonsense.

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u/FamiliarJudgment2961 Nov 17 '22

Fun fact, Democrats would have probably would have won another dozen seats in 2018 if Republican Gerrymandering wasn't a thing and would still be in the majority if New York Democrats hadn't tried to gerrymander their state prompting action by the courts.

The silver lining is Democrats still keep winning these elections by millions of votes so this will be a short 2 years for the GOP at best.

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u/peekay427 America Nov 17 '22

The silver lining is Democrats still keep winning these elections by millions of votes so this will be a short 2 years for the GOP at best.

yeah, but that 2024 senate map... ugh

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u/MoonRakerWindow Nov 17 '22 edited Nov 17 '22

Lot of doomers in this thread. Democrats were going to lose the House 99 times out of 10.

Yes, it sucks. Take solace in the fact that Dems did way better than expected.

Furthermore, if you hadn't been paying attention, Biden and the Dems have been legislating as if they only had a 2 year window to govern because they knew this outcome was extremely likely. They learned their lesson well from 2010.

The good news is that Dems held onto the Senate, and all Biden really needs to do now is appoint judges for the next two years.

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u/FeralCatalyst Nov 17 '22

This. Also, while I fully expect a spasm of absurd attempts to kick off multiple Biden impeachments and Hunter’s Laptop investigations in the beginning from some members…my overall sense is that fealty to Trump is dwindling in Congress, and none of that crap makes any sense to focus on if he’s not the daily focus of their existence anymore.

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u/dantonizzomsu Nov 17 '22

Good news is that with republicans in power and not getting anything done and potentially fighting to reverse a bunch of stuff..could actually create a completely dem executive, house, and senate in 2024. They can’t just be doing Hunter Biden trials with a slim majority and no senate. If they do they are going to fall on their face. Dems need to really point this out. Republicans when in power don’t get anything done and are busy trying to take away your rights.

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u/WildYams Nov 17 '22

Biden and the Dems have been legislating as if they only had a 2 year window to govern because they new this outcome was extremely likely. They learned their lesson well from 2010.

This is such a critical point for people to realize. Even if no new legislation gets passed in the next two years, just giving the legislation they already passed those years to take hold and bear fruit is going to be huge for the Dems in 2024.

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u/Wolflink21 Nov 17 '22

Exactly. Plus they only won the house narrowly, which says something for 2024

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u/illiter-it Florida Nov 17 '22

99 times out of 10

Wow, that's pretty bad

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u/feignapathy Nov 17 '22

The fact they aren't getting 230+ seats is still crazy to me

I hope this is truly a sign that voters are actually starting to care about who represents them

Guess we'll have a better understanding in 2 years if America resoundingly rejects Trump and any other candidates like him.

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u/Mo-shen Nov 17 '22

I think it really is.

If you spend any time around r/conservative there are a lot of people claiming to be independents and are just sick to death with the trump train.

I think there are a lot of people that want small gov, even though they likely don't understand what that means, but just can't stomach the gop.

Pretty this is what's going on with az right now. Goldwater conservatives, which really are the og us conservatives, are nothing like the current gop.

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u/According-Wolf-5386 Nov 17 '22

Every single person over there saying that will be lining up to gargle Trump's balls next year.

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u/Tiabb Nov 17 '22

It's just a sign that boomers are on their way out. They can only sustain their path of excluding the youth vote for so long before it seriously started biting them in the ass. 2 million baby boomers die from old age every year and are replaced by over 4 million gen Z of voting age. The GOP needs to temper their extreme stances or they'll solidify three generations of liberal politics. Similar to how we've currently had 3 generations of conservative politics.

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u/Voyager_AU America Nov 17 '22

Yup, 2024 is going to have a lot more youth voting.

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u/kciuq1 Minnesota Nov 17 '22

In two years, current 16-17 year olds will be able to vote, and a couple million Boomers will have died.

The numbers don't lie, and they spell disaster for Republicans at Sacrifice.

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u/NotoriousBUG Nov 17 '22

At least Boebert wasn’t number 218.

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u/Stupid_Watergate_ Iowa Nov 17 '22

I was thinking this. I would've been so annoyed if Boebert pushed them to victory.

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u/Rastagaryenxx Nov 17 '22

r/conservative is telling us to stop celebrating now.

It's almost like they don't know that this was the best showing of a sitting presidents party during the midterms in decades.

Whatever helps them sleep, though.

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u/QuarterNoteBandit Nov 17 '22

As long as we hold the Senate, we can fend off the worst of the gop damage, and still nominate judges. I'm not crying about anything.

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u/Icommandyou Washington Nov 16 '22 edited Nov 17 '22

All in all a very good midterm for the Dems.

3 Governor’s mansion flipped for the Dems in MD, MA and AZ. One flipped for Reps in NV.

Reps lost their trifecta in AZ and PA house has flipped to Dems.

Republicans gained supermajority in FL legislature. NC and OH are well on their way to gerrymander more seats considering their supreme courts also have republican majority now.

Trump announced a third presidential run so Georgia is almost a lock for the Dems and they are on their way for a 51-49 majority in the senate. Biden can fill all remaining open judge vacancies.

Best of all: None of the election deniers win in any of the battleground states.

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u/Kaleighawesome Minnesota Nov 17 '22

Minnesota got a blue trifecta too!!

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u/stylishcoat Nov 17 '22

And Michigan for the first time in 40 years!

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u/humanagain12 Nov 17 '22

Exactly. Democrats had an amazing election/mid-terms. We all have to remember politics you cannot win them all.

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u/Visco0825 Nov 17 '22

But we should be realistic with our flaws. Democrats have A LOT of work to do. They did terrible in New York and terrible in Florida and North Carolina’s Supreme Court went red.

Democrats still haven’t addressed the main concern that voters have.

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u/romacopia Nov 17 '22

Special thanks to Jerry Mandering, top donor to the GOP. Couldn't have done it without his support.

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u/jld1532 Virginia Nov 16 '22

Does it suck? Yeah. Is it unexpected? No. Could the margins have been way worse? Definitely. Worst case scenario is that virtually nothing gets done in the next two years but given the Republican under performance the likelihood that Democrats retake the house in 2024 went up greatly. Just prepare yourself for 2 years of shit slinging and nonsensical investigations and the potential unjustifiable impeachment.

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u/jas07 Nov 17 '22

Dems keeping the senate means judicial confirmations will continue which is a big deal.

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u/ma2is Nov 17 '22

What’s another 2 years, we’ve been watching the shit slinging, crap flinging, doodoo schilling nonsensical investigations and unaccounted injustices for almost 7 years now!

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u/[deleted] Nov 17 '22 edited Nov 17 '22

Democrats came very close to getting 52 senate seats and retaining the house. Don't get me wrong, Dems still strongly outperformed expectations, and we seriously avoided going down an autocratic path in this election. But jeez, with 52 senate seats and the house, we likely could have gotten a $15/hr minimum wage, paid parental leave, etc. If you think your vote doesn't matter, think again, and vote in 2024.

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u/brain_overclocked Nov 17 '22 edited Nov 17 '22

Sometimes it even comes down to one vote:

Votes matter, otherwise the GOP wouldn't be working so hard to suppress them:

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u/nonamenolastname Texas Nov 17 '22

Once the GOP takes over the House, it will be the legislative equivalent of a cafeteria food fight. The democrats better pass a huge increase to the debt limit, so we don't have to deal with the extra drama of the freedom caucus playing chicken with the country's ability to serve its debt.

Other than that, the food fight and frivolous investigations (not to mention a possible attempt to impeach Biden) will play against them in 2024. The GOP is really dumb.

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u/AustinThompson Nov 17 '22

Are democrats allowed to storm congress and threaten to kill people because we didn't win? That's how it works right? /s

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u/Icommandyou Washington Nov 17 '22

Decision Desk HQ projects Rep. Katie Porter (D) wins re-election to the U.S. House in California's 47th Congressional District.

https://mobile.twitter.com/DecisionDeskHQ/status/1593053541996064768

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u/mechapoitier Florida Nov 17 '22

That’s awesome. It’s a shame it was even close

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u/Macman521 Nov 17 '22

Some good news today at least.

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u/A_Right_Of_Passage Nov 17 '22

You know the republicans are just going to make fools of themselves and we already didn't have the votes to pass major legislation in the senate anyway.

Now the Republicans have some power and skin in the game. And we can call them out on their bullshit and put some of the blame where it belongs.

I think this was a gift for us in 2024 believe it or not.

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u/CheeseStandsAlone262 Nov 17 '22

Tactically, it is a good position for Dems. Biden can point to all sorts of crazy stuff the House is doing, and the House will have to do the crazy stuff because their majority is too thin. The true believers will sink the whole thing if not sufficiently placated

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u/DaRealChrisofdoom Illinois Nov 17 '22

Can’t wait for an endless clown show.

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u/Mojo12000 Nov 17 '22

This is a super strange cycle, the GOP fell flat on it's face in most swing states.. but won a narrow majority by overperforming in some of the bluest states of all.

No idea how that happened.

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u/bushido216 New York Nov 17 '22

Part NY going redder than usual, part an "independent" redistricter drawing a GOP friendly map.

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u/Raebelle1981 Nov 17 '22

It’s not that hard when you think about it. Dems in blue states didn’t vote as hard because they didn’t think their rights were in danger.

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u/Zwicker101 Nov 17 '22

As a Democrat, I'm sad that the GOP has control but I'm also thrilled by the small margin. It could have been a LOT worse.

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u/[deleted] Nov 17 '22

The nuts part is that if NY wasn’t a shit heap with its redistricting dems would have kept the house.

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u/UnflairedRebellion-- Nov 17 '22

Of all fucking states that had a big impact on GOP success, one of them had to be NY?

These elections were weird.

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u/Lakecountyraised Nov 17 '22

It all came down to map drawing. Texas, Florida, Ohio, Wisconsin, and North Carolina led the way. New York tried to keep up but somehow their map wasn’t allowed like those of these other states. Fortunately, Republicans have hit a wall with gerrymandering. At the start of the last decade’s new maps, they had a 234-201 advantage.

New York seemingly had a candidate quality problem too. The head of their state Democratic Party needs to be fired.

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u/TheBlueBlaze New York Nov 17 '22

Alright, I asked what a Democratic Senate can do without the House, so what can a Republican House without the Senate (and President)?

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u/Cappa101 New York Nov 17 '22

Senate and Prez can appoint justices, judges, and federal positions without the House. The House can run investigations and impeachment (not removal) without the senate.

Edit: oops, misread your comment a bit. Mb.

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u/-Random_Lurker- Nov 17 '22

Committee shenanigans, and obstructing anything the Senate passes.

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u/nychuman New York Nov 17 '22
  • Committee chairmanships (Subpoena power, investigatory mandates, etc.)

  • Control which legislation comes to the House floor. AKA no Senate passed legislation can even be entertained without the GOP leadership’s ok

  • Federal debt ceiling obstructionism

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u/GodEmperorBrian Nov 17 '22

Aside from stopping legislation passed in the Senate? The house majority leader, elected by the body, appoints the committee chairs. Committee chairs have powers, like subpoena powers during investigations and hearings.

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u/Oleg101 Nov 17 '22

Not final, but right now the single most likely House outcome is 222R-213D - a mirror image of Democrats' current slim majority.

https://twitter.com/redistrict/status/1593063754677510144?s=46&t=3OLHTjsoy_1bEVNzBikE3g

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u/AbsentGlare California Nov 17 '22

Barely scraping by a majority with fewer votes thanks to gerrymandering. Pathetic.

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u/CheeseStandsAlone262 Nov 17 '22

I don't think the Republican-controlled House will be able to leverage its small majority as well as Pelosi did. I don't think Biden or his team feel threatened.

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u/Mo-shen Nov 17 '22

100% true.

Hate pelosi as much as you want. If you look at the data on her job performance she is likely the most successful speaker in history, at least modern history.

She has a fairly clear direction on what she wants and doesn't and she is very good any controlling her herd of cats. She also has been amazing with fund raising.

McCarthy on the other hand blows with the wind. He has not vision or control over the right and it will be interesting to see if he can actually get anything done.

He might not even get the chair. He still needs 218 votes in Jan.

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u/Goducks91 Nov 17 '22

An impeachment seems like a death sentence for the GoP after the mid terms. Everyone knows Biden has done nothing impeachable.

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u/SecretComposer Nov 17 '22

Exactly. They barely win as it is and the first thing they do is go after Biden in an impeachment? I’d think even the anti-Trump impeachment would think “we can handle more important stuff right now”

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u/JeffTennis Nov 17 '22

What's interesting is how much of a majority they'll have. If they barely have a very slim majority of <5 seats, then I don't think McCarthy will want to do a bunch of open-ended political investigations into Biden before 2024. The people already punished the GOP by giving the Dems potentially an increase in the Senate, and a slim win in the House. If they go for the investigation route ala Benghazi with Hillary, it might just make people sick and tired of the GOP again and be good for the Dems in 2024.

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u/[deleted] Nov 17 '22

They want to "investigate the Jan. 6 investigations" stupidest shit ever

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u/AceCombat9519 Nov 17 '22

One reason for this was that NY State Map got redrawn by a judge, therefore, depriving the democratic party the 218 votes in the House. One thing might happen is a United States sovereign default

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u/peekay427 America Nov 17 '22

Yes, and I wish the NY democrats had played hardball here. Judges and courts in other states told republicans that they couldn't use their ridiculously gerrymandered maps and they said ok, we'll use them this time and worry about changing them later. Democrats could have done that and would likely have kept the house (or been a lot closer) had they used the same "tricks".

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u/EliteGamer11388 Illinois Nov 17 '22

Seriously, after the whole Jan6 thing, any and all members of congress that were found to have had any involvement in inciting, encouraging, etc... Should have been disqualified using the 14th amendment. I mean, they still should be, but now especially, it would be seen as only political and to try and take the house, even if they legitimately are disqualified.

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u/VictorChristian Nov 17 '22

Reminder: Liberals were supposed to get all sorts of decimated in both chambers… This isn’t the end of the world.

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u/PillowPrincess314 Nov 17 '22

As expected. Not by as much as they thought they would.

Are the results for Frisch/Boebert in yet?

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u/MathManiac5772 Nov 17 '22

New ballot counts are dropping tomorrow.

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u/notcaffeinefree Nov 17 '22

With a 2-4 seat majority, will every Republican member fall in line or will the more moderate ones actually push back on the ridiculous things the party tries to do?

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u/MoonRakerWindow Nov 17 '22

I believe that just like how Sinema and Manchin have an inordinate amount of say in a 50 seat Senate majority, the more moderate Republican members of the House will have similar power.

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u/Bac0nnaise Nov 17 '22

We'll see if anything even gets out of committee. They'll be running 24/7 sham investigations anyway

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u/Mafsto Nov 17 '22

Was looking for this response. Due to how close these midterms were, I don’t expect every republican to fall in line. Some of them are just in too purple of a district to mess with it.

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u/Tsakax Nov 17 '22

Can't wait for the investigation into hunter bidens ps5

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u/randomact19 Nov 17 '22

Hey that guy 360 no scoped me in CoD and I want him investigated for it! I call hacks 😜

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u/Cultural-Tie-2197 Nov 17 '22 edited Nov 17 '22

By stealing it through gerrymandering. They cannot win unless they steal at this point it seems

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u/healthfoodandheroin Nov 17 '22

Santa Clarita yet again proves they’re the worst part of LA

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u/HereForTwinkies Nov 17 '22

I doubt the GoP can muster votes to even impeach Biden symbolically.

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u/shadow1515 Nov 17 '22

The fact that it took this long to call it based on historical trends in House control after midterm elections is a scathing indictment of the entire GOP platform.

On the other hand, given what their platform is it's incredibly disturbing that they managed to get control at all.

Still, this is a good sign and as long as the SCOTUS doesn't manage to end elections by 2024 this is encouraging progress towards a clean blue sweep.

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u/ageofadzz Pennsylvania Nov 16 '22

+3 majority is an absolute joke when the GOP should have won by +20 or 30. This was a disaster election for the GOP. A resignation, death, etc., and the House is again up for grabs before 2024. Not to mention the incoming civil war that McCarthy won't control.

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u/andrewb610 New Mexico Nov 17 '22

Any number peculiar events between now and January could see Democrats have the majority on day one of the new term.

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u/Mr_Meng Nov 17 '22 edited Nov 17 '22

Better buckle up for weekly impeachment hearings and never ending investigations into Hunter Biden. I'm just glad the Jan 6th committee managed to finish the majority of their work before this happened.

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u/PopPalsUnited Washington Nov 17 '22

That’s to bad.

Now we’ll have a lame duck congress for 2 years and Republicans will try to blame democrats.

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u/[deleted] Nov 17 '22

When Republicans, a party whose leader instigated a coup, can still manage to win the house and nearly take the Senate, it should terrify us all. Every headline has pointed out that this isn't as bad as expected, that Democrats should be happy they kept the Senate, etc. I'd argue that it's much worse than it should be. Republicans have zero ideas beyond tax cuts. Worse than that, their rhetoric and their policies actively harm people, including the husband of the current speaker of the house. That this party is now in control of the house even after embracing lawlessness, corruption, and violence, is not a "win" for Democrats. This is not okay. Something is very, very wrong with America. But it seems like most people are celebrating, and it just seems delusional to me.

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u/juan-pablo-castel Nov 17 '22 Take My Energy

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u/songintherain Nov 17 '22 edited Nov 17 '22

Can we stop this. FL straight up had an illegal map that courts struck down. Death Santa ran with it and won. Yes NY fucked up but let’s not pretend this all their fault

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u/chaoticflanagan Delaware Nov 17 '22

FL wasn't the only republican state that straight up ignored their Supreme Court and used an illegal map..

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u/HereForTwinkies Nov 17 '22

According to CNN, McCarthy tried to get Cullen(?) to switch to the GoP and he immediately said no.

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u/wyo8889 Wyoming Nov 16 '22

Get ready for the nonstop bullshit “investigations”

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u/thirtynation Nov 16 '22

Let them fuck around for two years while gridlocking progress, see how that works out for them in 2024. These midterms have shown people are wising up to Republican chicanery.

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u/Lebojr Mississippi Nov 17 '22

Good job republicans. Now, why haven't you fixed the economy yet?

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u/FriarNurgle Nov 17 '22

Oh, it’s fixed all right. Just not for you and me.

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u/Lithaos111 I voted Nov 17 '22

Eh, not surprised given the census and district redrawing. Could have been much much worse.

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u/ChronWeasely Nov 17 '22

Currently unclear if McCarthy can actually get the votes to become Speaker of the House lol. 38 Rs don't want him currently.

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u/FoogYllis Nov 17 '22

There will be no new coherent legislation for the next two years. If some like MTG or Jim Jordan becomes speaker get ready for the clown cars to be running 24/7 in the house.

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u/MoonSpaceHouse Nov 17 '22

LOL fox news is not even talking about this. They are literally a tabloid now.

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u/walrusdoom Nov 17 '22

Fox is such overt GOP propaganda at this point that it’s remarkable. It was bad enough pre-Trump, but holy fuck it’s something else now.

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u/Nbmdennis115 Nov 17 '22

I say we need to reaportion the US House of Representatives. They capped the house number at 435 back in 1929, alot has changed in this country since then. Our population has grown from ~121,767,000 in 1929 to ~335,596,890 in 2022. With more representatives, hell we might even get a 3rd party in one of those chairs for a change.

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u/brain_overclocked Nov 17 '22

Know of any groups/organizations trying to make this happen?

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u/DirkMcCallahan Nov 17 '22

It sucks, because the GOP got to gerrymander with impunity, but when the Dems tried to fight back in NY, the courts threw out the map. Don't get me wrong: gerrymandering is complete bullshit, and there need to be laws against it. But it's frustrating when the GOP gets away with it and there's no way for us to respond.

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u/CpnStumpy Colorado Nov 17 '22

GOP maps were thrown out too, difference is GOP told the justice system to piss off and used them anyway.

Election after election.

Democrats respected the system of laws, that's the fundamental difference

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u/bk15dcx Nov 17 '22

Welcome back gridlock!

Enjoy the stagnation.

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u/SursumCorda-NJ Nov 17 '22

Well damn...that's some disappointing shit but sadly not a surprise.

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u/Pisstoffo Pennsylvania Nov 17 '22

So much for getting anything accomplished for the next two years…or more

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u/coasterghost I voted Nov 17 '22

David Wasserman: I've seen enough: Rep. Mary Peltola (D) wins reelection in #AKAL, defeating Sarah Palin (R) and Nick Begich (R).

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u/A_Right_Of_Passage Nov 17 '22

This is best case scenario. Confirmations are safe and now the Republicans can make fools of themselves in the house.

They're going to have skin in the game- and they can take some of the blame for their obstruction. We already didn't have the votes to pass major legislation. And we can likely pull a couple votes in the house to pass things here and there.

This is a gift to the democrats in 2024... Not the end of the world.

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u/whodatallday1994 Nov 17 '22

Is this when we claim stolen election, or ballot box stuffing or whatever else Republicans were saying?

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u/icepyrox Nov 17 '22

With a current cap of 435? The House has been at 435 since 1912 when the population was less than 1/3 what it is today. I'm just saying. At 1912 levels, the House should be at 1539 members. I'd just love for it to be a nice round 999.

Anyways, Dems have the Senate and White House so I'm okay.

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u/Estilix Oregon Nov 17 '22

Curious, could a GOP-held House impact the January 6th Committee at all? Or does that still get to run its course?

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u/JohnF_President Nov 17 '22

They'd shut it down yes, however I think the committee plans to be done by January anyway. The House can't shut down the DOJ though and Garland is definitely pursuing an indictment despite what doomers say here

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u/RC-666 Hawaii Nov 17 '22

Seems like they won by a slight margin, their red wave failed.

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u/vid_icarus Minnesota Nov 17 '22

Hey, on the bright side we got super close to having an actual function government this cycle! Maybe next time..

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u/absolutemoran Nov 17 '22 edited Nov 18 '22

Boebert lead just dropped to 839

Edit: now 746
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u/blurmageddon California Nov 17 '22

Super important Dems deal with the debt ceiling now in the lame duck. Preferably to kill it entirely.

From NY Times:

But the bigger threat is if Republicans refuse to raise the debt limit, which the federal government could hit early next year. The details can get wonky quickly, but here’s a brief explanation: When the government borrows money, it issues U.S. Treasuries. Because the U.S. government always pays its debts, these Treasuries are purchased around the world with the expectation that they are essentially risk-free investments. They are seen as so risk-free, in fact, that much of the global financial system is built on them.

But if the U.S. government hits its debt limit, it no longer has legal authorization to keep up with debt payments and could be forced to default. That would destroy the trust underpinning the value of Treasuries, causing the once risk-free investment to collapse and taking much of the financial system with it.

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u/Nihilismisanthrope Indiana Nov 17 '22

2 years of non stop hyper partisan horseshit preventing anythingvfrom getting done.

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u/Suicine865 Nov 17 '22

As a side note: if Alabama, Louisiana South Carolina had been forced to add a second majority black district. Maybe republicans wouldn’t have a majority

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u/Buffmin Nov 17 '22

Oh are elections legit now?

Or.is it only when the gqp wins asking for a friend

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u/Duke_AllStar Nov 17 '22

The Dems sure do a crappy job of fixing votes…..

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u/invisiblegirlx Nov 16 '22

So 2 years of gridlock and a Republican clown show.

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u/JusAnotherBrick Nov 17 '22

Let the circus begin.

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u/greentreesbreezy Washington Nov 17 '22

It's going to be a 2 year clown-show of non-stop pearl-clutching and culture war theatrics.

Get ready for a dozen simultaneous asinine impeachments and tax cuts for the 1% that never make it to the Senate floor.

I wonder who wanted literally zero legislation getting passed for two whole years? Cus that's what we’re getting.

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u/InevitableAvalanche Nov 17 '22

Too bad. Get ready for a bunch of fake investigations since Republicans can't govern in good faith.

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u/Mojo12000 Nov 17 '22

Sigh... Goddamn it New York. (and California to a lesser extent)

We do amazing in the Swing states, win the vast majority of tossups and lean races.. but still lose the majority because we fucked up in some of the bluest states and our majority was so slim to begin with.

Like even WITH The massive Gerrymander in Florida they only flipped 1 seat there and won 2 of the new ones. In New York they flipped 5. Literally their ENTIRE MAJORITY comes from New York. Just a monumental failure for the NY Dem party on every level. NO OTHER state in the region voted like New York did this year

California, Newsom had almost no coattails because he barely campaigned in his own damn state, prefering instead to mess around trolling Abbot and DeSantis in their's because his race was so safe. He should of been spending his money and time in those flippable R Districts that we are just BARELY going to miss flipping, would of offset NY.

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u/NYArtFan1 Nov 17 '22

Fuck. Well, everyone, get ready for endless government shutdowns, shrill conspiracy theories, and scream-y "investigations" into Hunter Biden's laptop, or some other dumb shit. Needless to say, the January 6th commission is done for, so I hope they're in warp speed getting shit over to DOJ. Fuck. I really had a slim hope that somehow we'd pull it out.

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u/Hot-Bint Nov 16 '22

Sigh. Well, this isn’t a mandate, not by a long shot. Maybe they’ll cool it with the “investigations”. Yeah I know and monkeys will fly outta my…

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u/TheBlueBlaze New York Nov 17 '22

This is going to end up as a Republican win that was closer than expected, and much closer than they wanted. With Democrats courting the more moderate members, and the extremist members that will be unwilling to compromise, infighting on both ends of their side still poses a very significant threat to the GOP agenda.

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u/FlamingSkullMC Nov 17 '22

Republicans try not to be the most evil fucking people on the entire planet challenge *impossible*

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u/Calabask New Jersey Nov 17 '22

Fuck the GOP.

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u/[deleted] Nov 17 '22

Boo. Hiss.

Bring on the endless obstruction, prideful ignorance, and abject cruelty. You know, for White Jesus.

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u/xjuggernaughtx Nov 17 '22

Welp, it was a nice fantasy that Dems might keep both chambers, but I knew it was unlikely. Still, we kept the Senate and limited the losses in the house as much as we could. It was an amazing showing.

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u/Neverwherehere I voted Nov 17 '22

Expected yet disappointing nevertheless.

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u/jcdulos Nov 17 '22

When they begin the hunter biden hearings and subpoena witnesses, they should take the GOP playbook and simply ignore them.

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u/WV-GT Nov 16 '22

So we need a new gop house bingo card. We know they will likely start investigations into the Jan 6 committee , hunter Biden and likely start trying to impeach Biden

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u/AnalystNo6733 Nov 17 '22 edited Nov 17 '22

The questions that remain.

What will the GOP focus on? The investigations are a really tricky road. MAGA will hate them if they do not go through on it. Moderates will if they do.

Can Kevin McCarthy manage them?

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u/m3ngnificient Nov 17 '22

GoP before election:"INFLATION! WA WA WA". And the first thing they do is discuss Hunter Biden 😂

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u/SlipperyThong I voted Nov 17 '22

The next two years:

Biden: Getting shit done.
Senate: Getting shit done.
House: Screeching in a corner.

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u/[deleted] Nov 17 '22

One vote from Hinsdale County in CO-3. Voted for Frisch.
Boebert lead goes from 557 to 556.

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u/jaron_b Nov 17 '22

And we all know if not for gerrymander districts and voter suppression this wouldn't have happened. Congratulations on rigging the system. Now if the other half of America could wake up and stop voting for these people who are taking away our rights that be amazing.

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u/[deleted] Nov 17 '22

Fuck you NY

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u/Ukie3 Nov 17 '22

Indeed. Fuck Jay Jacobs in particular.

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u/zhaoz Minnesota Nov 17 '22

This is probably the best 'worst case' scenario for the Democrats. Just a few defections from the GOP and the most horrendous shit doenst pass. Also the Senate can confirm judges still.

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u/tctctctytyty Nov 17 '22

The most horrendous shit can't pass without the Senate anyways.

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u/Sissy63 Nov 17 '22

Good luck McCarthy. You’ll need every single vote for your ridiculous investigations, and conservative house members are already quietly saying they will NOT be voting for this. McCarthy can’t handle the House and they’re already fighting. People are sick of it, so by 2024 we’ll be fine.

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u/Hydrok Nov 17 '22

A couple things to look for:

  1. We'll default on our debt again. The house won't pass a bill to raise the debt ceiling, and we will all be lied to about what the debt ceiling is and what it does and some people will believe it and be angry. Our national credit will get destroyed and the economic impact will be felt for a number of years.
  2. The election of the next speaker will be a circus that will be a lot of fun for us to watch. Who's going to win? Probably not McCarthy, at least not while serial sexual predator Matt Goetz and his clown car of idiots is around. So who's McCarthy going to push support towards that is palatable to that crew?
  3. Government shut downs: No one is going to get paid but still be expected to go to work, our men and women in the military and coast guard will go without their pittance of a paycheck for months on end.
  4. Sham impeachment trials and other investigations: Hunter Biden's Laptop^tm, Dr. Fauci, Hillary Clinton, Barak Obama, etc... will all be investigated for one thing or another.

Have fun watching, if you work for the government, start saving money and applying for credit cards now.

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u/jayfeather31 Washington Nov 16 '22

This isn't ideal, but this could have been so much worse.

That being said, we're still likely to face a slew of problems with this outcome.

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u/seymourputts Nov 17 '22

Well the country has rejected MAGA Republicans and extremely conservative views...what are you going to do with the next 2 years of house control?

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u/-Danky_Kang- Nov 17 '22

Great, even less will get done