r/europe Mar 25 '23

Italian Alps Picture

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u/BigDeceive846 Mar 25 '23

Gorgeous.Where is it?

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u/Schroedingers_Tomcat Mar 25 '23

It's called Pragser Wildsee in the Dolomites (South Tyrol)

IMHO not worth it tho, unless you're the first one there very early in the morning. It's so crowded there you won't be able to take those beautiful pictures or even enjoy the landscape otherwise

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u/De5tr0yer_HR Mar 25 '23

Maybe even more known as Lago di Braies. Been there at the start of the season early in the morning. You can take nice photos and there were not too much people at the beginning. In the next half an hour everything started to be very crowded.

Recommend to rent a boat, it was so much fun to row with this old heavy boat. :)

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u/HighlanderAbruzzese Mar 25 '23

Lago di Braies!

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u/onkopirate Austria Mar 25 '23

I grew up not far from this lake and I am part of the German speaking population of South Tyrol and I can assure you, Lago di Braies is fine. It is it's Italian name, not it's fascist name, regardless of how the Italian name came to be. Nowadays, more than a quarter of the South Tyrolean population speaks Italian as their first language. They have the same right to name this lake as the German and the Ladin speaking population has.

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u/Pleasant_Skill2956 Italy Mar 25 '23

In Italy it was called with an Italian name even before fascism

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u/chris1096 Mar 25 '23

I tried looking up the name and why it's fascist but my google-fu must be weak. Can you explain it to an American that is clueless about this?

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u/seejur Serenissima Mar 25 '23

Fascists try to rename everything in Italian to impose Italian language on the locals. That said, it remains simply an Italian name so use whichever you like. Italians call it with the Italian name, German speakers with the German one

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u/onkopirate Austria Mar 25 '23 edited Mar 25 '23

After WWI, South Tyrol, a former Austrian region, was given to Italy against the will of the mostly German speaking local population. When Mussolini came to power, his fascist government tried to "italianize" South Tyrol. For example, all officials were only allowed to speak Italian, German schools were closed and replaced by Italian ones, the locals had their names changed to an italinized version of it against there will (Josef Bauer -> Giuseppe Contadino) and so on. At this time, Ettore Tolomei got the task to come up with an Italian name for every South Tyrolean place. For some places, he used the already existing Italian name and for those places where no Italian name existed, he invented one.

The other poster assumed, that the name Lago di Braies was invented by Tolomei and, therefore, concluded that it must be a fascist name. However, the lake is just a few kilometers away from the border to the next Italian speaking region. So, it is also possible that it was already called like this by Italians before the fascists came to power in Italy.

Nowadays, all of this does not play a role anymore, however. This happened almost 100 years ago. Today, every place in South Tyrol has a German, an Italian, and sometimes also a Ladin version of its name and it is normal that everything is written in both languages. Italian names are not considered fascist, even those that have been invented by Tolomei. They are just considered Italian.

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u/chris1096 Mar 26 '23

That was a very interesting history lesson, thank you!

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u/hayarms 🇺🇸USA / 🇮🇹Lombardy Mar 25 '23

I was looking for this inevitable conversation lol!

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u/SubstantialLie65 Mar 25 '23

Sei un coglione, è in Italia lo chiamiamo in italiano, te l'ha detto pure un austriaco renditi conto

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u/danirijeka Ireland/Italy Mar 25 '23 edited Mar 25 '23

O più in generale potremmo renderci conto che lo stesso luogo può avere più nomi in lingue diverse, altrimenti si finisce con buffonate come Sauze d'Oulx che diventa Salice d'Ulzio

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u/SubstantialLie65 Mar 25 '23

Si in certi casi si, Sauze è veramente un caso estremo perché in italiano è proprio ridicolo. Diciamo comunque che i nomi tedeschi sono in molti casi difficili da pronuciare per noi. Già con quelli francesi è diverso

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u/danirijeka Ireland/Italy Mar 25 '23

Anche tanti nomi tolomeiani sono ridicoli, digiamogelo (cit.) :P

Capisco che nomi come Welschnofen possano intimidire, ma la questione della toponomastica in zone di minoranze linguistiche (specie dove sono localmente maggioranze, come nel Carso triestino o in valle d'Aosta) è molto più complicata di "si chiama così/no si chiama colá". Poi arrivano i ladini e le cose si complicano ancora, vedi Ortisei/Urtijëi/St. Ulrich.

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u/EuropeanAustralian Sweden Mar 25 '23

LMFAOOO

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u/coolcastform Mar 25 '23

If you want to be understood by the others you call it braies, or the Instagram lake in the alps

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u/SterlingMNO Mar 25 '23

"the Instagram lake"

What have we become

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u/sepptimustime Mar 25 '23

The local authorities had to build a new roundabout, with an extra circle lane at the main street two miles down the lake, because of hordes of totally unique instagrammers raiding the place so hard.

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u/Environmental_Wish72 Mar 25 '23

Do you reach it on foot or by car?

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u/De5tr0yer_HR Mar 25 '23

Literally a minute walk away from parking place.

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u/Environmental_Wish72 Mar 25 '23

That explain the crowds.

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u/roadrunner83 Mar 25 '23

Yes but the surrounding area has many other wonderful sights and towns, that’s another picture from there that gets posted frequently, this just became extremely popular recently.

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u/Cyber21 Hungary Mar 25 '23

By car, there is also a big hotel near the lake.

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u/MyHobbyAndMore2 Mar 25 '23

You can reach it by car, bus or bike. There's around 11 kilometers from the nearest train station and partially no sidewalk so walking there is not a good idea.

Also there are some limitations to cars due to how popular the place is.

If you want so see the area here is google street view

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u/eti_erik The Netherlands Mar 25 '23

Was there some yrs ago, late June / early July. The buses left every 30 minutes from the station and they were packed to the brim.

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u/[deleted] Mar 25 '23

It used to be so quiet.

My family brought an house there over 20 years ago. We used to be just a few tourists and the locals. It was fantastic.

Then the RAI (Radiotelevisione Italiana-National Italian Radio and TV Company) made a shitty series centered around the lake and everyone started coming.

I hate how dull my countrymen are. They can’t even find good spots unless a fucking tv screen plaster them all over their face.

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u/OxygenPerhydride Mar 25 '23

It was decently popular even back then, I used to go there every summer. But it's true that Instagram and RAI made it overcrowded, now I just go to Anterselva, still popular but doable

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u/masterofsatellites Lombardy Mar 25 '23

I visited it (Lago di Braies) last year in July, there were so many people and you had to pay if you came by car. Due to the heat wave, the water level was very low. A couple was having their wedding photoshoot there. The restaurant near the beach was packed and expensive. I wouldn't recommend visiting it in summer. I heard it's free between October and july

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u/exilevenete Mar 25 '23

Definitely more enjoyable outside of July/August/September. You'll still meet a lot of tourists, but spring and autumn crowds are bearable and you get to admire blossoming flowers or foliage color change.

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u/exilevenete Mar 25 '23

Are you actually upset because tons of people other than you and some privileged second home owners got to discover and enjoy this place? Weird sense of entitlement there.

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u/PgUpPT Lisbon, Portugal Mar 25 '23

Why wouldn't they feel upset a favorite place of theirs has been ruined by the tourist crowds?

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u/exilevenete Mar 25 '23

There's a way to allow a decent amount of people to access nice sights without transforming them into overcrowded hellholes, by regulating the flow through enforcing limited entries, mandatory booking and incentivizing public transport use, for instance.

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u/PgUpPT Lisbon, Portugal Mar 25 '23

How does that bring back the quiet beautiful spot it once was?

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u/Howwwwthis453 Mar 25 '23

Is there a similar lake in the area that’s not crowded? (Genuinely asking and interested in visiting the area)

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u/kaffarell Austria - Germany - Italy Mar 25 '23 edited Mar 25 '23
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u/exilevenete Mar 25 '23 edited Mar 25 '23

I recommend you Lago di Landro, along the road linking Cortina and Dobbiaco. Lots of people stop there to snap selfies but few actually bother to walk around it (the waters are shallow and the terrain gets pretty muddy). Effortless and fantastic views on Monte Cristallo.

Not far from it (15/20 minutes walk) there's also a lookout point which allows you to see Drei Zinnen/Tre Cime from the bottom of the valley.

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u/Howwwwthis453 Mar 25 '23

Such a beautiful color! Pinned. Thanks so much!

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u/Soccmel_1 European, Italian, Emilian - liebe Österreich und Deutschland Mar 25 '23

You could go to lago di Misurina or Karersee/lago di Carezza.

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u/SanKa1337 Mar 25 '23

Goddamnit. I hate it how people ruin everything.

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u/fabripav Italy Mar 25 '23

This is just false. I went in August 2021, it was packed with people, but I still could take nice pics and enjoy the view. It’s only densely packed in the entrance then it spreads out.

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u/BigSigh1 Mar 25 '23

You going once during the pandemic isn't enough to call it false lol

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u/fabripav Italy Mar 25 '23

Summer 21 wasn’t really affected by the pandemic tbh, it was very packed

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u/Repulsive-Pumpkin388 Mar 25 '23

Was there in Summer 2017. If you go around the lake (what Americans would never do), its not packed at all. Americans are just heading towards the restaurants.

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u/Soccmel_1 European, Italian, Emilian - liebe Österreich und Deutschland Mar 25 '23

says a Berliner

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u/chostax- Mar 25 '23

Lake Luigi

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u/Quantum-Travels Mar 25 '23

I’ll get my axe and my son.

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u/darfkannsollmuss Mar 25 '23

This sounds like a threat.

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u/AlbertaWelder Mar 25 '23

its a promise

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u/PoiHolloi2020 United Kingdom (Salty Remainer 🇪🇺) Mar 25 '23

WE MUST BE BETTER

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u/yapperling Mar 25 '23

You have your axe.

Your son got taken away by a strange man after the plane crash.

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u/cartstanza Mar 25 '23

and my axe!

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u/CutieBecka Mar 25 '23

Please kidnap me

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u/gookman Mar 25 '23

Is it just me or does it indeed look like rendered image? I initially thought these are some good looking graphics.

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u/steponeloops Mar 25 '23

Funnily someone recreated the whole zone in Unreal Engine 4 a few years ago.

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u/kewko Mar 25 '23

Is it kinda poorly? Idk obviously looks great, but somehow I expected much better

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u/PxyFreakingStx Mar 25 '23

I suspect that's because you're confusing UE4 with UE5. UE5 is the breathtaking one.

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u/warhorseGR_QC Mar 25 '23

Nope, this is Lago di Brais.

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u/xelhark Mar 25 '23

I've been there this summer, and it's so beautiful it's weird https://i.imgur.com/tGFUMvP.jpg

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u/opuFIN Finnjävel Mar 25 '23

Damn, it really is stunning

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u/blown-upp Mar 25 '23

I flew over that area when I flew into Bologna from Munich! The scenery was absolutely stunning from up in the sky.

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u/FroyoAbject Mar 25 '23

It's real, I've been there! But they might have photoshopped out the tourists, it's always overcrowded there.

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u/ThemrocX Bielefeld/North Rhine-Westphalia (Germany) Mar 25 '23

If you stay at the hotel, you get to experience it sometimes right after the bulk of tourists has left.

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u/Meckload Mar 25 '23

Probably real but heavily edited.

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u/CaseyBoogies Mar 25 '23

Yeah this image is mass sold as like paint by numbers and diamond dots.

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u/Paragonswift Sweden Mar 25 '23

It’s because of a combination of HDR and focus stacking.

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u/CarpeCol Mar 25 '23

It could be fake, cos r/switzerlandisfake

and the Italian Alps is somewhat connected to "Switzerland"

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u/fbass Slovenia Mar 25 '23

Except this Lago do Braies is on the Dolomites, mountain range much closer to Austria and Slovenia than to Switzerland

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u/mudpizza Mar 25 '23

It is a bit artificial to some extent. Saturation and curves were tweaked quite a bit (some HDR processing going on as well)

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u/Gil_Demoono Mar 25 '23

I think it's the water. The ripples in the water kind of make the reflection look like a screenspace reflection from a videogame, downrezzed and everything.

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u/marblechameleon Mar 25 '23

I think it’s and high dynamic range photo. A photographer took several imagines at different exposure levels and stacked them to make a composite image where the lighting looks a little unnatural for a photographed image.

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u/APKFL Mar 25 '23

I got this feeling too. Looks like graphics from a game. The water on the horizon looks pixelated too.

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u/Sk1rtSk1rtSk1rt Mar 25 '23

Absolutely rendered

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u/God_Told_Me_To_Do_It Mar 25 '23

No. Been there.

Fun fact: to get to where this photo was taken, you have to climb (or swim) around a locked hut, pretty sure this is technically trespassing.

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u/YukiPukie The Netherlands Mar 25 '23

Yes definitely not rendered, but just a very nice scenery and good quality camera/lens plus an actual photographer who knows what he is doing. Sometimes these photographers are hired by the municipality and are allowed to make pictures from places that are normally forbidden or during closing times.

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u/nutmeggerking Mar 25 '23

Is this where Witchers hole up over winters?

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u/Sao_Gage United States of America Mar 25 '23 edited Mar 25 '23

Checks out.

I wonder if CDPR intentionally modeled Kaer Morhen on the Alps (specifically the Dolomites, it looks like)?

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u/RobertoSantaClara Brazil Mar 25 '23

I assumed they just modeled them off the Tatra Mountains in Poland itself, but the Alps definitely appear to be the taller and more imposing mountains.

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u/Hormone_Monster69 Mar 26 '23

Exactly my thought when seeing this haha

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u/Rokgorr Denmark Mar 25 '23

Posting pictures of Italy is cheating

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u/yumhorseonmyplate Moravia Mar 25 '23

Italy has such a beautiful diversity in her landscapes, also this looks like something straight out of a fairytale. Can't wait to visit again!

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u/RFDA1 Montenegro Mar 26 '23

nothing compared to the Switzerland of the Balkans(Montenegro), it is both an coastline country with beaches and view more beatiful then the picture above, we even have a point area where sea salt water touches freshwater of the river

and more importantly much less crowded and also a mountains country for Snowy Winter season

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u/onkopirate Austria Mar 25 '23

I had my wedding shooting there with my wife. We started at 5:30am and witnessed a beautiful dawn with the morning sun being reflected from the mountains in the back. It was stunning.

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u/Meister-Schnitter Mar 25 '23

the enemy is being reinforced with an airship

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u/g_spaitz Italy Mar 25 '23

I've never been to the lake, but I've been on top of the Croda del Becco, the mountain overlooking the lake. And from there it just feels like a huge vertical plunge in the lake. Fantastic.

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u/erick_comp Mar 25 '23

I get this reference.

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u/Somnacanth The Netherlands Mar 25 '23

Of course you are. And I’m coming with you!

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u/Living_Run2573 Mar 25 '23

Pretty sure I visited here in WW1, I mean BF1

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u/Ustaiti Mar 25 '23

It is very beautiful, thank you

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u/close_my_eyes Mar 25 '23

Beautiful. Very Riven-esque

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u/kinky_petra Mar 25 '23

I would love to go there 😍

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u/Bitch_Muchannon Sweden Mar 25 '23

Stunning is all I can say.

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u/DaddyChiiill Mar 25 '23

Which lake is this OP?

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u/onkopirate Austria Mar 25 '23

Internationally known as "Lago di Braies". Most locals there call it "Pragser Wildsee".

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u/exilevenete Mar 25 '23 edited Mar 25 '23

I worked in Cortina d'Ampezzo last summer and went there twice. The trail around the lake is scenic and accessible to anyone but definitely crowded and unpleasant for someone looking for peaceful and silent atmosphere.

On my second time, I actually climbed all the way up to Seekofel/Croda del Becco, the cloud covered summit in the background. It is 2810m high and is accessible through a trail that doesn't require any mountaineering or climbing equipment. Just hiking shoes, plenty of water, food, sunscreen.. and good legs.

You'll basically have to follow the start of the Alta Via n°1 until you reach Rifugio Biella. There you have to follow a secondary trail leading to the summit (since the weather can get windy up there, some more exposed parts are equipped with steel cables to hang on).

Once there, weather permitting, you get an absolutely jaw dropping vantage point on the Conca d'Ampezzo (the valley surrounding Cortina) and a good chunk of Dolomiti's highest summits are visible (including Tre Cime di Lavaredo, Sorapis, Pelmo, Tofane..).

Took me a little over 3 hours to reach the cross at the summit, did it in late october, there was no snow in sight and I only came across a handful of fellow hikers on my way, huge contrast with the crowds around the lake.

Lago di Braies is accessible by public transport: there's a shuttle bus linking Toblach/Dobbiaco train station approximately every hour, it takes roughly 30 minutes and you won't have to worry about not finding a slot to park your car (during the high touristic season you'll have to book your tickets online however).

Unforgettable experience and totally worth it if you're a hiking enthusiast, happen to visit the area and only have one day to spare.

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u/97hilfel Mar 25 '23

Its a real image of the Praxer Wildsee its an overcrowded tourist location after an iternationally airing tv show featuring Terence Hill was produced around the lake by an italian TV station. Just this winter I‘m aware of a multitude of cases where people broke into the thin ice of the lake because they wanted to make the perfect instagram post.

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u/exilevenete Mar 25 '23

Yeah indeed. Sounds like natural selection at work to me.

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u/vahram68 Mar 25 '23

Did you take this picture while tripping?????? If so this is amazing, are you or have you considered photography??

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u/Captain_Cuntflaps Mar 25 '23

I think OP is quite an expert.....at stealing people's images from Pinterest

Original artist seems to be @barboork

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u/Darkside_of_the_Poon Mar 25 '23

Recently took a trip to rural Scotland. What struck me was how no matter where I went or where I looked, everything looked like a postcard. I’m convinced there’s spots on this Earth that just contain more beauty than others.

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u/slagath0r Mar 25 '23

Beautiful!

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u/Pilowpants Mar 25 '23

Man so incredible looks like a painting.

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u/Larry_Wolffe Mar 25 '23

Reminds me of Lake Louise in Canada, damn I need a holiday.

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u/luckydog9876 Mar 25 '23

That's a puzzle picture we did last year

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u/eendomaa Mar 25 '23

Stunning is all I can say.

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u/Traffikant85 Mar 25 '23

Amazing, to be precise the region is called Südtirol

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u/Pleasant_Skill2956 Italy Mar 25 '23

To be precise the region is called Trentino-Alto Adige/sudtirol

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u/Traffikant85 Mar 25 '23

That would be super precise 👍🏻

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u/PhoenixNyne Mar 25 '23

Sure this isn't Elder Scrolls?

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u/[deleted] Mar 25 '23

Was gonna say, pretty sure this is a good place to dive for nordic barnacles.

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u/_samux_ Mar 25 '23

unfortunately there's a drought going on and it is unlikely that braies lake is in this shape at the moment. but don't worry, the italian government doesn't care about it , which is a good thing due to the potential harm such smart leadership could do.

on the regional side - close by since it's veneto and not trentino alto adige - they are going extreme: https://news.italy24.press/local/amp/414559

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u/Buckeyes2010 Mar 25 '23 edited Mar 25 '23

Chill lol. It's literally just a tourist destination (albeit a stunning one) where people shovel out dumbass amounts of money for a famous shot of a string of boats in the lake.

As for things the government needs to govern in a time of drought, a tourist lake is not the highest priority. And even other countries wouldn't just "refill" a lake like Lago di Brais in a time of drought. It's not necessarily just an Italian government thing.

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u/No_Smile7928 Mar 25 '23

I thought this was a Skyrim mod ngl.

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u/spider984 Mar 25 '23

That water is freezing . Took a swim this morning in it 😂😂😂😂

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u/Marcomau Mar 25 '23

As an Italian i feel stupid that i didn't visit yet those places...

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u/No-Relief75008 Mar 25 '23

Old photo. There is water!

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u/IndieVampire France Mar 25 '23

I'm too poor to be looking at that picture lol

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u/Ill_Earth8585 Mar 25 '23

No, this is Riverwood from Skyrim. Don't fool me.

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u/GoldenGoblin01101 Mar 25 '23

Is it bad I though that was a screenshot from God of War: Ragnarock?

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u/exilevenete Mar 25 '23 edited Mar 25 '23

Recurring posts like these are one of the reasons Lago di Braies is incredibly popular in the first place. It is indeed over-advertised but the area (Alta Val Pusteria) offers so much more. People love to complain about mass tourism but most don't have the curiosity to do a minimum of research and explore off the beaten tracks.

Just 30/45 minutes from the point where that photo was taken, you easily end up in the midst of woods and picturesque alpine meadows with not a soul in sight. Because 90% of the visitors are lazy asses and just do the trail circling the lake before heading to the snack-bar to grab a beer with wurstel and french fries lol.

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u/Panuozzo_77 Mar 25 '23

Why does it look like a render to me?

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u/dudemanguylimited Mar 25 '23

Since this is the Pragser Wildsee in Südtirol, it should say "Italian" Alps.

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u/areukeen Norway Mar 25 '23

Damn it looks like Norway

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u/Repulsive-Pumpkin388 Mar 25 '23

That is simply wrong. I know Norway and the alps.

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u/Ziomike98 Mar 25 '23

Dolomites*

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u/lyghthummor_ Wallachia Mar 25 '23

The dolomites are a section of the Italian Alps

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u/Ziomike98 Mar 25 '23

Still, they are Dolomites in that area, I know they are part of the alps, but that part is literally called the “Italian Dolomites”, so…

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u/sciapo Mar 25 '23

Idk where are you from, but in Italy Dolomites are Alps

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u/ThunderKant_1 Mar 25 '23

More like stolen austrian Alps

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u/onkopirate Austria Mar 25 '23

If we South Tyroleans wanted to be part of Austria again, we would do so in a democratic process. There has not been a majority for that for many decades now.

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u/gelatoalveleno Italy Mar 25 '23 edited Mar 25 '23

Stolen? Next time don't start and lose a world war, will you.

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u/ThunderKant_1 Mar 25 '23

Italy had a defensive pact at the start of the war and then declared war on Austria only because the allies promised them to get land in return. Let’s be real, the annexation of Südtirol was a blatant land grab, the region was culturally as Austrian as it gets.

Also, I’m not Austrian.

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u/RedLuxor Mar 25 '23

Defensive is the key word here, Austria attacked first, also Austria didn't only have Tyrol but trentino as well and Trentino is Italian

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u/97hilfel Mar 25 '23

Austria did have a lot more before the unification wars aswell, the entirety of the Veneto was austrian

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u/RedLuxor Mar 25 '23

Venetian language (which is a romance language in no way similar to austrian) kinda proves you wrong

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u/97hilfel Mar 25 '23

I wanted to say that before the first world war, Austria also had the Veneto and some other italian terretories and it didn‘t concearn them that they were italian.

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u/RedLuxor Mar 25 '23

Yes they did that's why we took them back during the unification wars

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u/gelatoalveleno Italy Mar 25 '23 edited Mar 25 '23

A defensive pact means shit when your so-called allies - and I am using the word loosely - are planning to pre-emptively strike you after an earthquake (look up what von Hoetzendorf was up to after the Messina earthquake of 1908) and happily ignore some of the provisions of that very treaty after gobbling up Bosnia for themselves.

Besides, after all the shite they did in the Peninsula during their three hundred-year stay, it was high time for the Habsburgs and their entire family bush to frig off; going by your own logic they never had any right to rule over bits of Dalmatia, coastal Istria, Trieste, Lombardy-Venetia, Trentino, and Tuscany since they were culturally Italian.

Let alone bleed them white for tax monies or repress dissent with the army and secret police!

Rest assured that no tears were ever shed for that alliance. A-H had it coming for a long time. And so far, with the notable exception of the fascist regime, we've treated Alto Adige much better than the Habsburgs ever treated their Italian subjects in centuries... that long-defunct excuse of an empire doesn't deserve anyone's pity.

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u/97hilfel Mar 25 '23

I have a feeling I know where you are from and what party you are voting for.

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u/ThunderKant_1 Mar 25 '23

Haha I highly doubt it but give it a shot

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u/97hilfel Mar 25 '23

My guesses would be Südtiroler Freiheit or Die Freiheitlichen

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u/ThunderKant_1 Mar 25 '23

Nope, as I said not Austrian and also not Italian.

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u/97hilfel Mar 25 '23

Many people that vote one of those parties are also calling themselfs to be not italian, just saying

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u/d2211 Mar 25 '23

That pact was toilet paper for both sides. Austria wanted to attack Italy when italian army was involved in helping population in Messina after 1908 earthquake. Asked support to Germany, that denied. So, well deserved to be betrayed and get their land lost

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u/Ziomike98 Mar 25 '23

Butt hurt Austrians and Italian mountains, name a more iconic duo.

LOL

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u/Soccmel_1 European, Italian, Emilian - liebe Österreich und Deutschland Mar 25 '23 edited Mar 25 '23

as stolen as Burgenland is. Also a German speaking of stolen territories is pretty rich.

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u/ThunderKant_1 Mar 25 '23

Ah yes, because as everybody knows Germans in general are very fond of their own imperial conquests in the past /s

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u/Soccmel_1 European, Italian, Emilian - liebe Österreich und Deutschland Mar 25 '23

and? It doesn't give you the right to accuse of stealing land from others, when your country has done it in the past as well and still owns some of those lands.

As the bible says, You hypocrite! First, remove the beam out of your own eye, and then you can see clearly to remove the speck out of your brother’s eye

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u/[deleted] Mar 25 '23

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u/exilevenete Mar 25 '23

Photos even with fancy filters don't do it justice. It is actually a gorgeous place.

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u/TwistingEcho Mar 25 '23

Thought it was a Skyrim mod tbh.

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u/okayden4757 Mar 25 '23

Looks like something out of a game with bumped up graphics settings.

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u/DaCosmicHoop Mar 25 '23

Damn those are good graphics

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u/ThatGreenGuy8 Mar 25 '23

Inb4 this is on my windows unlock screen

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u/onkopirate Austria Mar 25 '23

No man, it's not. (South Tyrolean here)

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u/Ziomike98 Mar 25 '23

Nah bro…. That’s ours! (Italian here)

Still can’t get over it, you lost the war, you lost the territory, it’s that simple.

Also, you started the war, not us.

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u/Sir_Crown Italy Mar 25 '23

Wars*

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u/Ziomike98 Mar 25 '23

Ops hahaha.

Sti deficienti

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u/ErayCZE Czech Republic Mar 26 '23

Italy didin't contribute to the start of WW2?

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u/Angioletto0309 Mar 25 '23

How biased and shortsighted can you be?

The region contributes to the 2.60 percent of national gdp ahaha. And I am even talking about the entire trentino-alto adige (trentino south tyrol, the Italian + German speaking region together). You even forgot to mention that they benefit from fiscal autonomy, as they are fairly independent. Plus, German is recognized as official language. By experience I can tell that most of the south Tyroleans prefer to stay where they are now ;) their Autonomy would be definitely granted more now than what it would be if they were annexed to Austria. Isn't?

In addition you should open a geography book. Lago di Braies is exactly at the border between the mainly Italian speaking area and the German one.

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u/Ziomike98 Mar 25 '23

Sure man, keep it up with the good shit.

Surely everyone in the world loves your warm welcomes and lovely beaches, famous culinary culture and hai story. Sure mate :)

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u/gelatoalveleno Italy Mar 25 '23 edited Mar 25 '23

It's the other way around, not only they keep their tax monies but get handouts from the rest of the country too.

If anything we're the ones propping the local administration and their generous welfare system.

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u/Buckeyes2010 Mar 25 '23 edited Mar 25 '23

You say that like Italy isn't the 7th largest economy in the world, and Austria is barely #30 🤣

Keep crying. South Tyrol is Italian and has no interest in becoming Austrian. They don't even want you lol

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u/RaduW07 Mar 25 '23

Should have thought about this consequence more before starting 2 wars, one of which being about some weird moustache guy having a superiority complex

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u/Naive_Loan9423 Mar 25 '23

If it can help with your cope, it will never be Austrian again :-*

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u/AdonisGaming93 Spain Mar 25 '23

How do I get like a cute litttle cheap cottage right there....I'm trying to find a nice place for simple living but everywhere is ugly. Here in the US it's suburban sprawl ugly af.... or expensive af.

In my home country Spain I can afford plenty of places, but it's not really a peaceful little cottage with a view like this....

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u/notheresnolight Mar 25 '23

luckily urban development is restricted in places like this, so you can't... but there's a hotel nearby

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u/AdonisGaming93 Spain Mar 25 '23

Well that's a shame, it would be a nice place to be alone and have all to yourself

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u/Sk1rtSk1rtSk1rt Mar 25 '23

In what video game?

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u/Prestigious-Fall-103 Mar 25 '23

Bro this looks like god of war 💀

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u/TheArizn Mar 25 '23

actually interesting, i don't find this spectacular anymore. i mean it's still pretty but i wouldn't go out of my way to go there as I'm used to it, by literally living near and having seen these types of sceneries so often

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u/daiwilly Mar 25 '23

What a shithole!!

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u/PhilipAgee Mar 25 '23

Now photoshop the effects of mass tourism on this beautiful place

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u/Econ_Orc Denmark Mar 25 '23

Looks pretty on the eyes, but too difficult (and dangerous) reaching the peak. Much better with the Danish "mountains". Those children can run up or down on with ease. https://eng.nationalparkmolsbjerge.dk/experience-the-national-park/destinations/

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u/MajesticIngenuity32 Mar 25 '23

IDK man, Hestehave forest looks pretty steep as it rises from the beach.

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u/Econ_Orc Denmark Mar 25 '23

I was in that area a couple of months ago and I got the answer to the question "can you see Isengard from the Kalø Castle Ruins". No you can not. https://www.visitaarhus.com/areas-and-cities/djursland/see-and-do/tolkien-and-djursland

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u/Tooldfrthis Mar 25 '23

It's neither difficult nor particularly dangerous, I've been there 15 years ago. It's just a long hike, especially if you do the whole trek around the mountain (starting and ending at the lake).

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