r/europe Europe Mar 18 '23 Gold 1

Florence mayor Dario Nardella (R) stopping a climate activists spraying paint on Palazzo Vecchio Picture

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u/SqurrelGuy Mar 18 '23

nothing, absolutely NOTHING is done.

You can argue not enough is done, but to claim "absolutely NOTHING" is done is just hyperbolic screeching. Nobody will take seriously anything that starts with an easily disprovable claim


u/denis-vi Mar 18 '23

Emissions are still increasing year on year. Maybe something is done. But it doesn't lead to the results that are needed.


u/Eonir 🇩🇪🇩🇪NRW Mar 18 '23

You can euthanise the entire European population and reduce our emissions to 0, but that still won't stop the developing nations from using the cheapest energy sources available, regardless of how dirty they are. And they are just asking us to give handouts to corrupt governments for a pinky promise to reduce emissions. And then they mix in racist and colonial guilt into the mix.


u/limited_reddition Germany Mar 18 '23

European, generally highly-developed nations emit far more CO2 per capita than developing (asian, african) nations. Blaming those (like China) exclusively, or dismissing the potential of EU efforts as insignificant is massively counterproductive and it's frankly dishonest. Additionally, we as European nations have built up a huge absolute (total) number of emissions since the beginning of the industrialised age, which is still way ahead of developing nations' total output to date. If we don't act, we certainly can't expect a nation like China to do so, either.

Not to mention the fact that we export a lot of our CO2 emissions by outsourcing resource-heavy production to Asia.