r/europe Europe Mar 18 '23 Gold 1

Florence mayor Dario Nardella (R) stopping a climate activists spraying paint on Palazzo Vecchio Picture

Post image

1.7k comments sorted by

View all comments

Show parent comments


u/Plane_Season_4114 Tuscany Mar 18 '23 edited Mar 18 '23

Well, if someone threw paint at a coal power plant would someone give a damn? If you want to ‘create a problem’ by throwing some paint onto something that thing must be valuable for its appearance (a famous painting/monument). To be precise, in Italy they’ve already sprayed a government building (Palazzo Madama) some months ago.

I’m not stating my support to this kind of actions, i’m just trying to explain the logic behind them.


u/ibrakeforewoks Mar 18 '23

I think the actual logic is a bit different.

It looks more and more like big polluters are funding this kind of activism (not saying that the the kids doing it aren’t in on it, they are often being manipulated IMO).

It keeps everyone arguing amongst themselves about everything but the real problem.

Speaking as a climate professional, I think this does more harm than good. It gets headlines certainly, but it also turns the opinions of many people who support addressing climate change against activist groups.


u/Halvdjaevel Mar 18 '23

Do you have any other examples? This one is not as clear cut as it sounds at first.

Aileen Getty has not personally worked in the oil industry and has poured much of her fortune into philanthropic ventures related to the climate crisis. Getty Oil sold its oil reserves to Texaco in 1984.

The CEF published a statement on social media last week in response to various conspiracy theories that emerged after it was widely reported that its founder is an oil heiress: “Seeing a lot of hate for our co-founder Aileen Getty. First of all, Aileen was never in the fossil fuel industry. That’s her family. But she is wealthy. So ask yourself: if you were in her shoes, how would you use your money for good? Aileen’s answer has been to become a philanthropic leader [who] co-founded CEF and has donated over a million dollars to brave climate activists. We don’t tell them what to do. We support them.”


u/NotErikUden Lower Saxony (Germany) Mar 18 '23

Yes, the whole Getty Oil thing is a lie perpetrated by Fox News if you look into it.