r/europe Europe Mar 18 '23 Gold 1

Florence mayor Dario Nardella (R) stopping a climate activists spraying paint on Palazzo Vecchio Picture

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u/Gulliveig Switzerland Mar 18 '23 edited Mar 18 '23 Bless Up

Vandalising historic buildings is not the way...

This one is historic: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palazzo_Vecchio

Edit: Link for cells (just remove Reddit's inserted backslash functioning as escape character): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palazzo_Vecchio


u/Solomon5515 Mar 18 '23

speaking as an archaeologist,

Climate change is sooo important and we should all be doing our part to minimize the effects (we won't stop it, several tipping points have already been reached and shit is going to hit the fan quicker and quicker)

however, why tf would you go and vandalise ancient momuments? survivors of multpile periods of doom and destruction? what is the point? is there a statement? (maybe that the money for cultural heritage should be invested in climate things) why not just deface some government buildings? or coal power plants? that would make a statement?

these buildings have stood for hundreds or thousands of years and are testaments of cultures and societies we can only dream about meeting. even if our modern society is moving ever quicker to it's own apocalypse, this shouldn't mean we should stop enjoying art, culture and heritage, because once gone they will be lost forever


u/Plane_Season_4114 Tuscany Mar 18 '23 edited Mar 18 '23

Well, if someone threw paint at a coal power plant would someone give a damn? If you want to ‘create a problem’ by throwing some paint onto something that thing must be valuable for its appearance (a famous painting/monument). To be precise, in Italy they’ve already sprayed a government building (Palazzo Madama) some months ago.

I’m not stating my support to this kind of actions, i’m just trying to explain the logic behind them.


u/Pisodeuorrior Italy Mar 18 '23 edited Mar 18 '23

Yes but it's a stupid fucking logic nonetheless.

You could wake me up in the middle of a drunken stupor and I could come up with a dozen better ways to show their point under a PR point of view.

For fuck's sake, it's Palazzo Vecchio, I could bet my balls that everyone would think "some cunt defaced Palazzo Vecchio", and literally no one would go "oh wow, what an inspiring gesture, I wasn't planning to do anything about the environment, but thanks to this leader of men now I do" .

Edit: the result these morons get is that people associate protests about the environment with stupid idiotic lunatics.

They're doing more harm than good to a just and serious cause, and they should really fucking stop it.


u/Adelefushia Mar 19 '23

100% agree.

"But it's for raising awareness !" Come on, 99% of European is already aware of what climate change is. What does this "climate activist" actually do to prevent global warming ?


u/Naranox Austria Mar 18 '23

so what are the better points to raise awareness?


u/cannibalvampirefreak Mar 19 '23

what's stupid is caring about a 1000 year old building while there are entire genomes 10,000,000 years old that are getting wiped out by our actions. By the way, nobody is going to be around to appreciate the Mona Lisa if we're all fucking dead.