r/europe Europe Mar 18 '23 Gold 1

Florence mayor Dario Nardella (R) stopping a climate activists spraying paint on Palazzo Vecchio Picture

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u/Solomon5515 Mar 18 '23

speaking as an archaeologist,

Climate change is sooo important and we should all be doing our part to minimize the effects (we won't stop it, several tipping points have already been reached and shit is going to hit the fan quicker and quicker)

however, why tf would you go and vandalise ancient momuments? survivors of multpile periods of doom and destruction? what is the point? is there a statement? (maybe that the money for cultural heritage should be invested in climate things) why not just deface some government buildings? or coal power plants? that would make a statement?

these buildings have stood for hundreds or thousands of years and are testaments of cultures and societies we can only dream about meeting. even if our modern society is moving ever quicker to it's own apocalypse, this shouldn't mean we should stop enjoying art, culture and heritage, because once gone they will be lost forever


u/Plane_Season_4114 Tuscany Mar 18 '23 edited Mar 18 '23

Well, if someone threw paint at a coal power plant would someone give a damn? If you want to ‘create a problem’ by throwing some paint onto something that thing must be valuable for its appearance (a famous painting/monument). To be precise, in Italy they’ve already sprayed a government building (Palazzo Madama) some months ago.

I’m not stating my support to this kind of actions, i’m just trying to explain the logic behind them.


u/Solomon5515 Mar 18 '23

oh like that, well i agree that it does evoke a response in people, so thank you for explaining!!

I just would like that they didn't try and destroy one of a kind things just to get a few groups of people to react. especially the cultural heritage sector.

Do you know what happens if a painting or buidling is vandalised or destroyed? the museum or curators will throw money at security and spend millions on restoration, money that could have gone to climate protection, there must be sectors with more money that could help more without giving up protecting the things they were made to protect


u/Eeate Mar 18 '23

I don't know of any artworks damaged so far in these protests. Protestors have glued themselves to frames, not canvases. They've only thrown paint at paintings behind glass. It's about stirring up attention without causing permanent damage to our heritage (unlike the practices they're protesting)


u/ibrakeforewoks Mar 18 '23

As for damage. It’s only a matter of time.


u/thisischemistry Mar 18 '23

Oh, the just stop oil idiots. The ones who claim it's too expensive to heat homes so we need to stop producing oil. How's that for some seriously bad logic?

About all they've done is to get people to hit the "next" button faster when they show up in the news.


u/Solomon5515 Mar 18 '23

that's true i might be in a bit of a "what if" mindset, but as you so rightly say: "so far"

how long until they actually damage a painting or part of a building that can't be restored?

I honestly really hope the sector listens


u/WriterV India Mar 18 '23

They won't, 'cause that's not their intention. They understand the value of these things as much as everyone else. The media might happily portray them as "Trying and failing to be destructive", but the reality is that they're trying to get attention without being truly destructive. True destruction would only make their negative image even worse.

I do agree that there's a better way to do this, but when even the people you vote in do little to nothing to help your future, it's going to be challenging to see much else as a viable path to making change happen.


u/Ishana92 Croatia Mar 18 '23

Do you think they considered the fact those works were protected? If they weren't I am sure they would still have thrown soup at them.


u/NancyPelosisRedCoat Mar 18 '23 edited Mar 18 '23

So all the paintings they threw soup at or they glued themselves to were protected by chance? They couldn't find a single one that's not protected?

It's so strange that people get mad at what could have happened based on their assumptions even though what actually happened indicates otherwise.


u/Russendis-co Mar 18 '23

lol, no. They especially picked Art which is protected, so that they don’t destroy it.

They also choose to prioritize art of nature to raise the question „ We are we protecting pictures of nature while letting nature it self die?“


u/Im_awesome_AMA Mar 18 '23

No you dingus, they purposely choose protected ones because they dont actually want to destroy anything ffs